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Marriage Happens in the Bed — Arguments Against

Playing the role of Adversarial Advocate, here are the Top 5 arguments against — Virginity Required for Marriage.

I have been thinking, studying and living this Thesis for 20 years. It all started when I myself asked God to show me “How” to take a wife. Where in the Scriptures are the Instructions for “How” to get married?

In my 20 years of thinking about this Question — I have encountered a variety of arguments against this Thesis. Most are pretty wild, so I won’t mention those, but some have been “common” and if I were trying to find a “Loop Hole” so to speak, these are what I would use —

  1. Marriage is a Covenant. In other words, Marriage is a Covenant and then Sexual Intercourse consummates that Covenant. So, marriage does not happen in the Bed. My first Response would be to refer the reader to the Article — https://areyoumarried.wordpress.com/2024/02/07/biblical-marriage-and-the-erroneous-marriage-covenant/ — A few talking points. Those who justify their “marriage” with this argument, usually do not have an answer to the Question — “Ok, define or explain “the Covenant” i.e., HOW does one make one? Where are the Instructions/Guidelines in the Scriptures which explain and or outline the Parameters of such a Covenant of Marriage? The Answer(s) are always SUBJECTIVE. I have never had 2 people provide for me the same or identical instructions. Most will Quote Malachi 2:14-15. It is an important verse. But, this verse does NOT describe or define what exactly is the Covenant. So, we are back to square one — Where or What are the instructions and HOW does one make one? The most common answer is — a Covenant are Vows and a Witness is needed. God being the Witness in this particular passage. My Question has always been — “What did God Witness?” Did God witness a Ceremony with an Officiant, the Groom, the Bride, Vows and a Witness? The Scriptures do not say. So, now it becomes “Subjective” as to what God witnessed. Maybe the simple answer is — God witnessed the act of Sexual Intercourse.

The Verse Reads — Yet she is your companion And your wife by covenant. But did He not make them one, Having a remnant of the Spirit? And why one? He seeks godly offspring.

The first question that should arise is — How did God make “them one”? Is this not a reference to Genesis 2:24 — “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.”

Paul expands on this — “Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not!  Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

How is this anything BUT Sexual Intercourse? It is as clear as day. Who in their right mind would first make a covenant with a harlot and then engage in sexual intercourse? “Two Become One Flesh” is Sexual Intercourse. Period.

The majority of Christendom believes Marriage is “Something” followed by sexual intercourse. The problem is that 2 men can’t get together and agree on the “Something”. “Marriage” is now a Man-made Tradition. Follow Man. Not — let us seek God’s Will i.e., His Natural Laws concerning Marriage.

Undeniable Fact — When a virgin girl has sexual intercourse with a man, the Scriptures say that she is now “known” by the man. The Scriptures say she is now “one flesh” with the man. The Two have now become One. How is this not God joining two into one? Which the Scriptures also say that this Union can only be severed by the death of the Man. Which makes much sense. The Two Become One – Literally. While the Man lives, his essence remains in the woman. He must die in order for the woman to be “released” from the man, so that she can become “one flesh” with a second man. Why Paul speaks to Virgin girls and Widowed women in 1 Corinthians 7.

Christendom says they know God better than God Himself. Let us decide when a man becomes a husband and a woman a wife. Let us decide when a “divorce” may occur and who can “remarry”. The whole Charade is one giant JOKE! Man plays God. Even appointing “officiants” who recite words — “… by the power vested in me I pronounce you ‘man and wife’….”. Who gave such a person this Power?

Modern Marriage is Man-made. Not God made.

2) Not Under Bondage — 1 Corinthians 7:15 — My first response is to refer one to this article — https://areyoumarried.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/not-under-bondage/

Bullet Points — the word rendered “bondage” (15) is the Greek term douloo, which means “to make a slave of.” Observe how the word is translated in Titus 2:3 – “enslaved to much wine.” Biblically speaking, marriage is never viewed as slavery! The “bondage,” i.e., enslavement, does not refer to the marriage union. Second — the Context of this passage starts in verse 10. Paul is speaking to those who are married. Verse 10 — “Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband.  But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband.”  Verse 15 is still within the Context of verse 10 i.e., the same people Paul is addressing. Paul just said to the woman — remain unmarried. It would be contradictory for Paul to then say the woman is free to remarry two sentences later. That is not what he is saying. He is saying that a woman should not be forced to remain with her husband if he is an unbeliever or if she is in an abusive relationship. One Time, someone said to me that “unmarried” means unmarried in it’s literal sense. But that doesn’t make sense because Paul says to remain unmarried OR be reconciled. So, if we take “unmarried” literally, then Paul would have to say that if the woman be reconciled, she would have to get “married again”. “Unmarried” simply means — Remain Single, or be reconciled.

3) What about Forgiveness? — Forgiveness is possible. One just need ask. However, what is a man or a woman being “forgiven” of? A virgin man and a virgin woman who engage in Sexual Intercourse just married themselves together as One Flesh. This is a Righteous Act. The “One Flesh” union is not Sin. Nothing to be forgiven of. There is NO SUCH THING as “Born-again Virginity”. You can’t take back Virginity. When a girl becomes One Flesh with a man, they are One Flesh UNTIL the death of the Man occurs.

4) What about Grace? See #3. “Grace” for what? Does “Grace” overlook the act of Murder? Does Grace overlook the act of Adultery? Paul writes —

“….For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man...”.

This is God’s Natural Law(s) of Marriage/Divorce and Remarriage. It is as clear as day! There is NO exception for a woman to take a second husband while her first husband lives. The “exception” is for the man who takes a wife not a virgin — Deut 22:14. And a man can “put away” an unfaithful wife. But the two are still one flesh. And NO, if a man is unfaithful, this does not allow the woman to remarry. Nowhere in the Scriptures will you find this provision. Again, we are talking about “Natural Laws”. Not Legality. Or Paper Marriage drafted by Lawyers. One Flesh is a Natural Law that can only be severed by Death.

Lastly ….. ask yourself this Question — Why did not Jesus give “Grace” to the woman at the well? Why did not Jesus tell the woman at the well “How” to marry so that the current man that she was living with could be her “husband”? Why did Tamar rip apart her Robe of Virginity? Why did Tamar tell Amnon that “leaving” her was worse than raping her? Why did Tamar remain desolate in her brother’s house? Tamar was “one flesh” with a man who would not keep her as a wife. Tamar is now defiled. A woman can only be “one flesh” with ONE man at a time. There is not ONE example of a non-virgin woman having a husband and is considered righteous. Not one.

5) Ignorance. I was “ignorant” of God’s Natural Law. Ask yourself this Question — “What made you ‘married’ to your wife?” Or, “What made you ‘married’ to your husband?” The Vow or the Ceremony did NOT make you “married” as one flesh to your spouse. Ignorance — if you walk off a cliff, would you expect God to save you because you acted out of ignorance? If a baby crawls off a cliff, does God protect the toddler from the fall because the toddler did not understand gravity? Sexual Intercourse is a Natural Law. It has consequences that defy man’s will. The woman who takes a husband, while her first lover lives, is committing adultery every single act. God cannot overlook continual adultery. It goes against His Nature. Grace cannot Tolerate Sin.

Those are the Top 5 Excuses for why men and women don’t believe that only Virgin Girls and or Widowed Women can take or have a husband.

Allow me to expand on #1, which is the most commonly used arguments against “Marriage Happens in the Bed”.

The Covenant. Marriage is a Covenant. It is a Covenant between the man and the woman. When a woman allows a man to “go into her”, they just became married as One Flesh. Sexual Intercourse is Symbolic of a Covenant. Please read — https://areyoumarried.wordpress.com/2024/02/13/sex-two-become-one/

Excerpt — The main theme throughout the Bible is one of a covenant relationship between God and His people, leading to the ultimate covenant relationship between Christ and the Church through His shed blood on the cross. Chapter five of Ephesians shows us that the marriage relationship is symbolic of Christ’s relationship and covenant with the Church: “For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church” (v. 31-32). The mystery of a man and woman becoming one flesh as a result of the “covenant” between them is a beautiful representation of the covenant Christ made with His Bride (the Church) by His blood shed on the cross.

The following passage in Deuteronomy shows the significance of the blood shed during a couple’s first intercourse. If there was no blood then their relationship was defiled and death was demanded, because this was evidence that the woman had already joined herself to another.

If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel’s virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: And the damsel’s father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. (Deut. 22:13-17)

The “tokens” of the woman’s virginity was the cloth the couple had laid on during their first intercourse to establish their union as husband and wife. If the woman was a virgin her hymen was intact when she entered the bridal chamber and was then cut by the penetration of her husband during their first intercourse. The cloth showed evidence of her virginity by absorbing the blood that resulted from her hymen being broken. Blood is part of the establishment of the covenant between a man and a woman. This is symbolic of the blood of Christ that establishes His covenant with us.

Malachi 2:14 refers to the “wife of thy covenant”. This word is the same word used for other covenants made throughout the Bible, including the covenant between God and man, and the covenant between Christ and the Church. Easton’s Bible Dictionary defines “covenant” as:

a contract or agreement between two parties. In the Old Testament the Hebrew word _berith_ is always thus translated. _Berith_ is derived from a root which means “to cut,” and hence a covenant is a “cutting,” with reference to the cutting or dividing of animals into two parts, and the contracting parties passing between them, in making a covenant (Gen. 15; Jer. 34:18, 19).

This seems to indicate that there is significant symbolism in the cutting of the virgin woman’s hymen during her first intercourse, representing the establishment of a covenant with her husband for life. (Please note that this is obviously a symbol of this covenant, and that if a woman’s hymen has already been torn by other means, or if she is a widow, the life-long covenant is still established.)

Even though intercourse is what initializes the act of becoming one, it is God that does the joining through this act. Intercourse is simply the catalyst, since the joining is an act of God and not an act of man, though man chooses whom he joins himself with and is therefore held responsible for the covenant he forms through this act. This act of God in making the couple one in conjunction with man’s physical act is part of the “mystery” of the one flesh relationship referred to in Ephesians 5:32. We cannot explain exactly what takes place in the spiritual realm as a result of the sexual act. It remains a mystery, just as our oneness with Christ as a result of His death and resurrection remains a mystery.

In summary — When a girl allows a man to “go into her”, she and he just agreed to become “One Flesh” together i.e., Joined together. Whether they are aware of this Natural Law, is not the fault of God. Man has failed the World.

Focus on the Family Believes “Sex is Marriage”!

Incredible.  I found this article at Focus on the Family — “Does sex equal marriage?”

http://family.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26462/~/does-sex-equal-marriage-in-god%E2%80%99s-eyes%3F

The article begins by answering a reader’s question — “When a couple has sex, aren’t they essentially married in God’s eyes? It seems to me that if the younger generation understood this and believed it, things would change fast. Dating as we know it would cease. Virgin women wouldn’t dream of putting themselves in a compromising position with a man. A young man would be far more careful if he knew that the moment he crossed the line he was committed. Wouldn’t you agree that this is the message we need to be communicating?

Focus on the Family replies — “Technically speaking, you’re right on target in suggesting that, in God’s eyes, marriage has more to do with the sex act than it does with church ceremonies or legal documents. According to Scripture, marriage is fundamentally a matter of a man and a woman becoming one flesh (Genesis 2:24). Sexual intercourse is central to that process.” 

“….he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.”  James 1:8

FOTF says, “marriage has more to do with the sex act…” and then proceeds to speak out of the other side of the mouth by implying the ‘one flesh’ concept is something other than simply Sexual Intercourse.

This is a classic example of a Hireling.  Their conscience knows the truth, but ‘Self’ and ‘popularity’ prevail.  So they appeal to the masses — the broad road.

Becoming one flesh is simply and purely = Sexual Intercourse.  There is no other interpretation.  One Flesh, or becoming One Flesh is nothing other than sexual intercourse.  Period.  End of Story.  For anyone to say otherwise, is deceived, a Heretic; a false teacher; a Hireling. 

The deception is in the words — ‘Becoming’ and ‘Process’.

As if to imply that One Flesh is more than just a single act of Sex.  It is not.  One Flesh is simply Sex.  There is no ‘process’.  There is no ‘becoming’.  You are either joined as one flesh; or you are not. A woman is either a Virgin or she is not. There is no “in between”.

But yet the “itching ears” accepts this erroneous teaching.

The amazing aspect to this article is in the Question.  I could write an entire book on just this one question.  The reason the world is in the shape that it is today is simply because Man has not followed God’s desire for sex and marriage, which is a Natural Law.  I would imagine 90% of those couples who are ‘married’ are not married after all.  They are “legally” married with the approval of the State, but I would venture to say over 90% of Christian couples today are practicing adulterers – Romans 7:2-3. 

The Scriptures say that God does not hear Sinners. How can a person “Hear” the Holy Spirit while they are in continual sin. Paul says “adulterers” will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

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What I find amazing about this article is that Focus on the Family actually admits that having sex in the eyes of God is marriage.

They say — “Technically speaking, you’re right on target in suggesting that, in God’s eyes, marriage has more to do with the sex act than it does with church ceremonies or legal documents.” 

They also say —  How do we get them to care about the fact that sexual activity equals marriage in the eyes of God?

FOTF comes right out and says it!  “…sexual activity equals marriage in the eyes of God.”

Unbelievable.  Unbelievable, because they admit that sex is marriage in God’s eyes, ‘but not in ours’.  Is this not the epitome of arrogance/pride?

Is this not the perfect example of a people who have completely lost the ‘fear of the Lord’?

How does a man sleep at night when he can admit that God recognizes Sex is Marriage, but then do nothing about it.  ???

Even given the idea of Spiritual Blindness (deception), you would think that just having a basic sense of logic and reasoning skills, would cause a person to seriously examine this reality.  But, no one cares.  No one cares because no one fears the Lord.  They just don’t fear Eternity.  500 Years of Calvinistic Baggage that evolved into Modern Evangelical “judeo-christianity” — that Changed the Definition of God’s Grace and turned it into a license for immorality – Jude 4. God forgives Adultery — even in the very act of it. Blasphemy.

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I am willing to bet that if I were to ask 100 Christian pastors/teachers whether Biblical Marriage should be “subjective” or “objective”, they would almost all say biblical marriage should be objective.  Especially in light of the gay marriage controversy.  They would have to say biblical marriage should be objective.

How is Romans 7:2-3 anything other than an Objective statement?  A woman can remarry upon the death of her spouse.  Death is an emphatic statement.  Death is final.  Death is not subjective.  Death is decidedly objective.  You are either dead or you are alive.  Period.

This must be the definition of Hypocrite.  The Scripture says ‘death’ can only separate the marriage bond; spiritually dead christians say ‘death’ is not the only remedy.

This Hireling over at the http://www.theos.org blog has written practically a book explaining his sin.  http://www.thenarrowpath.com/ta_divorce.php

I copied his “research” paper onto Word and counted his words.

19,553 Words.

250 paragraphs.

Wow!  Subjective or Objective?

I will explain Biblical Marriage and lets compare:

— When a virgin girl has sex, she is now known by the man.  She is joined to the man as ‘one flesh’.  Society should recognize this couple as ‘man and wife’.  Society’s failure to recognize this couple as ‘man and wife’ is not the fault of the Scriptures.

This ‘one flesh’ union is only severed by death.

You take this simple formula and apply it to EVERY passage related to sex and marriage and it fits.  No subjective interpretation necessary.  The Scriptures will speak for themselves.

Take the challenge.  Prove me wrong.  — END —  56 words by the way, compared to 20,000.

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Focus on the Family says — Where we may see things differently is in the area of practical application. What are the implications of this theological truth for couples living in the cultural context of 21st century America?

Wow!  As if 2000 years since the time of Jesus and His Apostles changes the way in which God intended for us to live.  We must ‘adapt’ our theological convictions because of “Culture”? Culture, dictates how we apply God’s Laws. Shameful.

How did we get here?  This is an argument I have in my mind all the time.  Kind of like the ‘chicken or the egg’ conversation.

Jude writes — “For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.” 

I believe the teaching of Once Saved Always Saved is the final product of this apostasy that first began during the time of the Apostles.  I don’t know exactly what was being taught during that time, but I could imagine it was very similar to what we have today.  This idea that once a person believes in Jesus Christ and receives “Salvation”, such a person is saved and will always be saved despite their actions in the future.  99% of Christians today believe in Eternal Security.

Is this how Man lost the desire to “follow” Jesus in all things pertaining to life and Godliness?  Deciding to be married is probably the second most important decision one makes in their lifetime.  Why do men and women just trust their church or trust tradition to explain marriage and how to be married?  Could the belief in OSAS be partly responsible?

At the end of the day, the belief in Once Saved Always Saved is “a different Jesus” — 2 Corinthians 11:4.  There is an aspect to “knowing Jesus”.  Jesus implies that He will turn many away because He “does not know them”.  So it is true that our Salvation is a relationship with the Lord Jesus.  Just as any relationship requires a knowledge of one another; so too is our relationship with the Messiah.  We must ‘know’ Him in order to follow Him.  The idea that Jesus took our punishment so that we can continue to sin and not be held accountable for that sin, is simply — “another Jesus”.

Now will be the time to read — “God’s Natural Law of Marriage and the Erroneous Marriage Covenant” — https://areyoumarried.wordpress.com/2024/02/07/biblical-marriage-and-the-erroneous-marriage-covenant/

Paul wrote to the Corinthians not to “Marry” a non-virgin woman.

“…Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members with a non-virgin? Certainly not!  Or do you not know that he who is joined to a non-virgin is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.…” — 1 Corinthians 6

If you take issue with the translation of “non-virgin”, ask yourself this one question —

“What is the difference – “Physically Speaking”- between a non-virgin woman and a harlot; who is also a non-virgin. Both are “One Flesh” with a man. Are they not?”

Having Intercourse with a non-virgin woman is having intercourse with a woman who is joined as “One Flesh” with another man. Technically “adultery”. How does a “Vow” change this Fact?

Question — Would Paul have allowed a man to take a harlot for a wife? Cleary, Paul said absolutely — do not have sex with a harlot. Having sex with a harlot/non-virgin is a Sin against the body. A sin “Like No Other” according to Paul. It defiles the Flesh. This is not a Sin of the Conscience/Soul per se. Paul said specifically, this is a direct violation of one’s body i.e, flesh and blood. How does a Vow make the sex righteous? She is still “Joined” to a man.

So, could a man take a harlot for a wife? If you say “yes” — please explain to me HOW? How would a man take a harlot in marriage. Back to square One — there are no procedures and rituals required for Marriage. Sex is the Marriage!

You will say, “what about forgiveness?”

My Question to you —- Both Jesus and Paul say that the One Flesh Union can only be severed by the death of the man. Why did not Jesus nor Paul include “forgiveness” for remarriage? In fact … if “Forgiveness” dissolves the One Flesh Union, why even bother to say that “Death” releases the woman from the man? “Death” is not insignificant. It is Emphatic/Objective. “Divorce” doesn’t erase the One Flesh Union either. “Divorce” is a Man-made Legal Instrument/Document. There are NO procedures for “divorce” in the Scriptures. It was something the Israelite Men made up. I don’t even believe it was something the Levitical Priesthood Legislated. It is only ASSUMED it was.

Christians believe — Sex with a harlot = Sin. Marriage to a harlot, however, is no longer Sin. Somehow, magically, the sex is no longer a sin against the body, even though both the harlot and the non-virgin is still One Flesh with a different man. Illogical. It is only logical to Christians because they believe marriage is “Something” followed by Sexual Intercourse. I have proven on this Blog that “Marriage” is not “something” and then sexual intercourse. The “something” is Subjective and no 2 men can agree to the Necessary Procedures and Rituals Required for this magical “ceremony”.

One Flesh is a Natural Law. Sexual Intercourse creates the One Flesh union which is a Natural Law. Procreation is a Natural Law. Sexual Intercourse is the Procreation — a Natural Law.

Therefore, DEATH is the Natural Law that severs the other Natural Law — One Flesh. One Flesh is Objective. It is only created by Sexual Intercourse. Not emotions or commitment, rice and rings.

A woman can only be One Flesh with one man at a time and the marriage bed be undefiled.

Prove that wrong.

Jesus gave us ONE exception for a woman to “remarry”. One. Not 5. One. The Death of the man.

Period.